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epistemologicide
(Hive Addict)
10-28-04 05:01
No 538258
User Picture       ozy new blockers? low yeild

8 grams of sudo = 2gram of methamphetamine.

wtf? did every thing as per usual even did the old skool worlok salt addition, and basifyed the fawk out of it, titrated the fuck out of it, and still got 2 grams yeild..

pills in question are, fuck how the fuck am i going to describe them..der der der.. wink

(mods its from an ad on tv, im not scatered)

(my fingers were crossed when i typed that crazy tongue mad )

any other oz bees had a similar result using e/rp/i and push pool

lab grade phos, .o7
tinture i 1.5,to i gram of e.

i know that if you do a freebase extraction from it and a birch you will pretty much get a gram a pack, and a 100% yeild..so it cant be blockers?

should i evap the no polar to check? at the end of the meth reaction? if its not the blockers than i am going to have to gas cause i tirated the fuck out of it, the yellow gear took most of my acetone to clean it up..

now my toe nails color can be changed over...(i used all my acetone)

crazy

http://217.159.169.126/~creator/public/ZPE/files/consolidated_knowledge.pdf
no more sacred laws

Martian_A
(Newbee)
10-29-04 00:02
No 538387
      Cheddar Cheese?

when basifying, did it go into a mouldy cheddar cheese look? only way to etract the gear is either waiting 10 years for the emusion to die off as heat wont rid it no more? or did you simply filter? yields will suffer and will quality! SWIM wasted his last 30ml of HI on so called ORIGINALS, obviously were not originals no more!

placebo
(arrogant bee of the day)
10-29-04 06:28
No 538462
User Picture       You can't compare the birch to RP/I as...

You can't compare the birch to RP/I as...
a) The birch is always going to have higher yeild RP/I.
b) The birch is not as sensitive to aldulterants in rxn as RP/I.

So "clean pseudo" or even ground up pills will work in a Birch, because you can't gakk up an electron, but RP/I needs very clean pseudo.

It's not really me, it's Android in disguise!

wareami
(Hive Addict)
10-29-04 12:17
No 538518
User Picture       Hailz Mates! >should i evap the no polar to

Hailz Mates!

>should i evap the no polar to check?

It's doubtful that the NP has collected ~1-6grams and dressed `em UP to go out Trick or Treating for halloween. tongue
The basified solution is holding the goodz captive.
In cases like this, either wait it out until the gaak loses it's grip or for the extremely impatient like epist wink try this:
Post 500474 (wareami: "Assless Chaps :•ю", Stimulants)

It's fast...it's easy...it's crude!
But it unlocks the goodz.
Ibee uses an oil bath as his heat source and the temp is set @ 176°C(350°F) to steamdistill the product over.
Takes less than an hour.
Shorty and biotechdude have some great steamdissing threads here somewhere.

Cebo: The GUPchucking birch rxns Ibee has witnessed returned less than 50% yield.

Ibee is an HI/P-Family cook and he enjoys 90% yields...but that's because he finds the last part of you're statement to be true.
>"but RP/I needs very clean pseudo."

> The birch is not as sensitive to aldulterants in rxn as RP/I.

That statement is false however, (misleading at best) because they add adulterants today aimed at foiling birch reductions.

If the shoe_throws fits...Ware It_out

Martian_A
(Newbee)
10-29-04 21:58
No 538617
      Jesus!

God damn!

WHO has mentioned the birch reduction?

SWIMS CHEDDAR CHEESE ISSUE REFERS TO E/HI/RP (NANO) -- NEWLY GAKKED SUDO!

No Lithium or Ammonia is EVER used over here! *simply cos its a rare find for clean dry ammonia* :(

epistemologicide
(Hive Addict)
10-30-04 10:32
No 538715
User Picture       could be the dirty phos

ahr..clarity..incisive unique info im used to from this unique consistent mind expanding freedom medium...

warez, im told it might be the phos, i cleaned via worlok style, so now might hcl boil (its lab grade)but now i learnt some thin new to thanks to you man.. just to be sure ill boil it in hcl..as well and try that.. any other suggestions as to how to clean it?

martian..now never, are you sure they are the same brand name pills?

http://217.159.169.126/~creator/public/ZPE/files/consolidated_knowledge.pdf
no more sacred laws

kinesthetic1
(Stranger)
10-30-04 12:33
No 538726
      Blu smarties or 6hrs?

Are you referring to the 12hr or 6 hr tabs. I've been strictly a 12hr kid for the past year now. Apart from having a few extraction problems scaling up my usual nano 5box to 130 box bubbles, I'm still getting the goods over at the end. No matter how good the 'water' is tho I go for a ratio that always has hypo in excess...3:3:1 (hypo:I2:e) to ensure all the e gets converted. Most of the time I'll A/B the lot instead of steam distilling...super clean, pH is exactly where you want it & no stink min 75% yield. I hope its not a new yeild stealer... maybe go for a slow reflux (double usual time) to see if that helps with yields.

Perfect the Technique

wareami
(Hive Addict)
10-30-04 13:10
No 538729
User Picture       Many styles...so little time..

laugh
episte: describe the phos and the steps used to arrive at what ya got.
What is making the phos suspect in yer mind?
Not saying it isn't...but we can't advise on what's what if we don't know what's what wink

If the shoe_throws fits...Ware It_out

epistemologicide
(Hive Addict)
11-01-04 02:59
No 539019
User Picture       dirty phos steps

kines..swim is using the 6's but is using e\i\rp and not hypo...swim will pm you wink

warez..okay mate the exact steps..swim was given the phos to use by a very awe inspiring altruistic bee wink ..and stated that it was lab grade, but needs to be washed as it had been used mayby in a hypo reaction!! so swim washed it via worlok style, swim ran acetone through it many times till light yellow, then used xylene to wash it, then fresh acetone again to wash off the non polar, then boiled in de mineralised water till dry...still wasent good enough.. tongue

swim is told that It is good to go when it is a nice dry powder that is free-flowing and does not clump together...

every time swim basifys the goods from the rx there is strange, colors comming through from the mix..slight bluey, some times slight browny etc..

swim has as suggested to him to boil in hcl a few times and in de mineralised water as his only hope..

swim has stuffed (low yeild) in two rxn's so far..at least doing this to the phos now will isolate that idea..swim off to research what geez does to clean hi phos, from memory that was pretty 'tight' so to speak...

http://217.159.169.126/~creator/public/ZPE/files/consolidated_knowledge.pdf
no more sacred laws

lsd
(Stranger)
11-02-04 14:17
No 539214
      Re:Der Der

Empirical testing was done on the said pills, actually 6 hour and 12 hour.
Trial 1 (as suggested in PM)
First a boil in mineral turpentine etc.
Resulted in peanut butter.Never made it before, interesting.

Trial 2
Using 12 hour
Grind in cofee grinder
Put in beaker.
Mix well.
Add TCE/PCE.-Brake cleaner sprayed into water and seperated.Cheap, nasty, works.
Use soda ash not caustic
Use as directed by the Evilscripter's DRY ACID/BASE method.
Don't use caustic anymore, SODA ASH works well instead.
When heating Xylene, DO NOT ALLOW TO BOIL. If you do you will also bring PEG GAK over.
90% of GAK REMOVED!!! (as long as you you didn't boil the xylene).
Will still contain anti recrystalisation GAK.
After reaction, I steam distill the product out (still used caustic here) and then titrate with HCL.Acid and evaporate.
At very end I tried to recrystallise using metho.
Used to work in place of isopropyl, but not anymore.
Seems that the water content reacts with the anticrystallisation GAK which will leave you with a paste/gel looking product that liquify's and must be kept in the freezer to solidify.In Adelaide they call it 'Spag in a bag'.Shall use Isoprpyl next time, to see if it does crystalise.
Still works good though.
Is smokable which I like.
Haven't tried the short path distillation but will try that in the future.

Amnesia
(Newbee)
11-03-04 00:17
No 539283
      I do know that with the 6 hours the slighest...

I do know that with the 6 hours the slighest amount of water, will make it kinda go hard like old chewimg gum.

LSD are you saying that when the 6 hours are boiled in turps they are destroyed?

Last time swim played with the 6 hours a 24 hr turp soak was the first thing he done and this was the first step he did to get his clean pseudo.
This was say bout 2 months ago.

lsd
(Stranger)
11-03-04 11:18
No 539410
      huh

no, not at all. That was trial 1 which did not work.
Trial 2 was much more successful which didn't include any washes. Just dry acid base like evilscripter's with the use of TCE/PCE.Just need to work on the anti-recrystalisation crap now I think but that may have been my mistake by the use of metho instead of isopropyl but will know more at the end of next week when more empirical testing shall be done.

FUCK YOU HOWARD!!!

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		epistemologicide (Hive Addict) 10-28-04 05:01 No 538258				ozy new blockers? low yeild
						8 grams of sudo = 2gram of methamphetamine. wtf? did every thing as per usual even did the old skool worlok salt addition, and basifyed the fawk out of it, titrated the fuck out of it, and still got 2 grams yeild.. pills in question are, fuck how the fuck am i going to describe them..der der der.. (mods its from an ad on tv, im not scatered) (my fingers were crossed when i typed that) any other oz bees had a similar result using e/rp/i and push pool lab grade phos, .o7 tinture i 1.5,to i gram of e. i know that if you do a freebase extraction from it and a birch you will pretty much get a gram a pack, and a 100% yeild..so it cant be blockers? should i evap the no polar to check? at the end of the meth reaction? if its not the blockers than i am going to have to gas cause i tirated the fuck out of it, the yellow gear took most of my acetone to clean it up.. now my toe nails color can be changed over...(i used all my acetone) http://217.159.169.126/~creator/public/ZPE/files/consolidated_knowledge.pdf no more sacred laws



		Martian_A (Newbee) 10-29-04 00:02 No 538387				Cheddar Cheese?
						when basifying, did it go into a mouldy cheddar cheese look? only way to etract the gear is either waiting 10 years for the emusion to die off as heat wont rid it no more? or did you simply filter? yields will suffer and will quality! SWIM wasted his last 30ml of HI on so called ORIGINALS, obviously were not originals no more!



		placebo (arrogant bee of the day) 10-29-04 06:28 No 538462				You can't compare the birch to RP/I as...
						You can't compare the birch to RP/I as... a) The birch is always going to have higher yeild RP/I. b) The birch is not as sensitive to aldulterants in rxn as RP/I. So "clean pseudo" or even ground up pills will work in a Birch, because you can't gakk up an electron, but RP/I needs very clean pseudo. It's not really me, it's Android in disguise!



		wareami (Hive Addict) 10-29-04 12:17 No 538518				Hailz Mates! >should i evap the no polar to
						Hailz Mates! >should i evap the no polar to check? It's doubtful that the NP has collected ~1-6grams and dressed `em UP to go out Trick or Treating for halloween. The basified solution is holding the goodz captive. In cases like this, either wait it out until the gaak loses it's grip or for the extremely impatient like epist try this: Post 500474 (wareami: "Assless Chaps :•ю", Stimulants) It's fast...it's easy...it's crude! But it unlocks the goodz. Ibee uses an oil bath as his heat source and the temp is set @ 176°C(350°F) to steamdistill the product over. Takes less than an hour. Shorty and biotechdude have some great steamdissing threads here somewhere. Cebo: The GUPchucking birch rxns Ibee has witnessed returned less than 50% yield. Ibee is an HI/P-Family cook and he enjoys 90% yields...but that's because he finds the last part of you're statement to be true. >"but RP/I needs very clean pseudo." > The birch is not as sensitive to aldulterants in rxn as RP/I. That statement is false however, (misleading at best) because they add adulterants today aimed at foiling birch reductions. If the shoe_throws fits...Ware It_out



		Martian_A (Newbee) 10-29-04 21:58 No 538617				Jesus!
						God damn! WHO has mentioned the birch reduction? SWIMS CHEDDAR CHEESE ISSUE REFERS TO E/HI/RP (NANO) -- NEWLY GAKKED SUDO! No Lithium or Ammonia is EVER used over here! simply cos its a rare find for clean dry ammonia :(



		epistemologicide (Hive Addict) 10-30-04 10:32 No 538715				could be the dirty phos
						ahr..clarity..incisive unique info im used to from this unique consistent mind expanding freedom medium... warez, im told it might be the phos, i cleaned via worlok style, so now might hcl boil (its lab grade)but now i learnt some thin new to thanks to you man.. just to be sure ill boil it in hcl..as well and try that.. any other suggestions as to how to clean it? martian..now never, are you sure they are the same brand name pills? http://217.159.169.126/~creator/public/ZPE/files/consolidated_knowledge.pdf no more sacred laws



		kinesthetic1 (Stranger) 10-30-04 12:33 No 538726				Blu smarties or 6hrs?
						Are you referring to the 12hr or 6 hr tabs. I've been strictly a 12hr kid for the past year now. Apart from having a few extraction problems scaling up my usual nano 5box to 130 box bubbles, I'm still getting the goods over at the end. No matter how good the 'water' is tho I go for a ratio that always has hypo in excess...3:3:1 (hypo:I2:e) to ensure all the e gets converted. Most of the time I'll A/B the lot instead of steam distilling...super clean, pH is exactly where you want it & no stink min 75% yield. I hope its not a new yeild stealer... maybe go for a slow reflux (double usual time) to see if that helps with yields. Perfect the Technique



		wareami (Hive Addict) 10-30-04 13:10 No 538729				Many styles...so little time..
						episte: describe the phos and the steps used to arrive at what ya got. What is making the phos suspect in yer mind? Not saying it isn't...but we can't advise on what's what if we don't know what's what If the shoe_throws fits...Ware It_out



		epistemologicide (Hive Addict) 11-01-04 02:59 No 539019				dirty phos steps
						kines..swim is using the 6's but is using e\i\rp and not hypo...swim will pm you warez..okay mate the exact steps..swim was given the phos to use by a very awe inspiring altruistic bee..and stated that it was lab grade, but needs to be washed as it had been used mayby in a hypo reaction!! so swim washed it via worlok style, swim ran acetone through it many times till light yellow, then used xylene to wash it, then fresh acetone again to wash off the non polar, then boiled in de mineralised water till dry...still wasent good enough.. swim is told that It is good to go when it is a nice dry powder that is free-flowing and does not clump together... every time swim basifys the goods from the rx there is strange, colors comming through from the mix..slight bluey, some times slight browny etc.. swim has as suggested to him to boil in hcl a few times and in de mineralised water as his only hope.. swim has stuffed (low yeild) in two rxn's so far..at least doing this to the phos now will isolate that idea..swim off to research what geez does to clean hi phos, from memory that was pretty 'tight' so to speak... http://217.159.169.126/~creator/public/ZPE/files/consolidated_knowledge.pdf no more sacred laws



		lsd (Stranger) 11-02-04 14:17 No 539214				Re:Der Der
						Empirical testing was done on the said pills, actually 6 hour and 12 hour. Trial 1 (as suggested in PM) First a boil in mineral turpentine etc. Resulted in peanut butter.Never made it before, interesting. Trial 2 Using 12 hour Grind in cofee grinder Put in beaker. Mix well. Add TCE/PCE.-Brake cleaner sprayed into water and seperated.Cheap, nasty, works. Use soda ash not caustic Use as directed by the Evilscripter's DRY ACID/BASE method. Don't use caustic anymore, SODA ASH works well instead. When heating Xylene, DO NOT ALLOW TO BOIL. If you do you will also bring PEG GAK over. 90% of GAK REMOVED!!! (as long as you you didn't boil the xylene). Will still contain anti recrystalisation GAK. After reaction, I steam distill the product out (still used caustic here) and then titrate with HCL.Acid and evaporate. At very end I tried to recrystallise using metho. Used to work in place of isopropyl, but not anymore. Seems that the water content reacts with the anticrystallisation GAK which will leave you with a paste/gel looking product that liquify's and must be kept in the freezer to solidify.In Adelaide they call it 'Spag in a bag'.Shall use Isoprpyl next time, to see if it does crystalise. Still works good though. Is smokable which I like. Haven't tried the short path distillation but will try that in the future.



		Amnesia (Newbee) 11-03-04 00:17 No 539283				I do know that with the 6 hours the slighest...
						I do know that with the 6 hours the slighest amount of water, will make it kinda go hard like old chewimg gum. LSD are you saying that when the 6 hours are boiled in turps they are destroyed? Last time swim played with the 6 hours a 24 hr turp soak was the first thing he done and this was the first step he did to get his clean pseudo. This was say bout 2 months ago.



		lsd (Stranger) 11-03-04 11:18 No 539410				huh
						no, not at all. That was trial 1 which did not work. Trial 2 was much more successful which didn't include any washes. Just dry acid base like evilscripter's with the use of TCE/PCE.Just need to work on the anti-recrystalisation crap now I think but that may have been my mistake by the use of metho instead of isopropyl but will know more at the end of next week when more empirical testing shall be done. FUCK YOU HOWARD!!!

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