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fnord
(Hive Bee)
11-06-04 20:46
No 540058
User Picture       30% h202

swim recently found a cleaner that contains 30% h202 any ideas on how to clean this up? and could it posibly be used to reduce p-phed to methcathinon?

(www.h2o2.com)

industrialism is infecting us like syphalis

embezzler
(Hive Addict)
11-06-04 21:51
No 540071
User Picture       what do you mean clean it up?

if you mean increase the % h2o2 it can be distilled but this is dangerous with peroxides.

chemically enhanced.

fnord
(Hive Bee)
11-06-04 22:29
No 540074
      yup

yup thats dangourus.but what i want is to remove the other 70% and end up with 90% H202 ive heard frezzing will take 3 percent up to 25-30.but that wouldent workin my situation. what aboute EtOH? then evaperating at room temp? what would be the ratio of H2O2/ether in the extract? ive read that ether wont form peroxides with H202 only h20 is this true?

fume hoods are for pussys

Novice
(Hive Bee)
11-06-04 22:48
No 540076
      Ethers form peroxides when exposed to light...

Ethers form peroxides when exposed to light and oxygen (O₂).

Since H₂O₂ is miscible with water I'd say it's probably not very useful to try and extract it with ether. Look up the solubility of hydrogen peroxide in ether in Merck.

And what about EtOH? How would you extract H₂O₂ with something that also is miscible with water?

The only practical way to concentrate H₂O₂/H₂O is by vacuum distillation IMHO, and it's a pretty perilous way to do it...

embezzler
(Hive Addict)
11-06-04 22:53
No 540077
User Picture       there are write ups

on its distillation at sciencemadness.org if i remember correcctly

chemically enhanced.

geezmeister
(Of Counsel)
11-07-04 14:35
No 540192
      why not just buy some?

Its readily available and not a watched or suspcious item. Chemical supply companies carry it, stores that sell professional cleaning supplies sell it, some pool supply companies sell it, and almost any pool supply company sells 17.5% HOOH.

mostly harmless

fnord
(Hive Bee)
11-08-04 21:26
No 540478
User Picture       not what i neeed

im lookin for at least 60% for a little project i have going. on a unrelated not to my project what is the final word on reducing p-phed to meth-cathinone with h202?

R.I.P GG Allen :(

UncleFester
(Popular Author)
11-09-04 01:04
No 540527
      30-35% peroxide

In one of my books somewhere, I directed to look in the alternative heath section of certain periodicals..in particular those periodicals serving the news needs of those wanting news outside the controlled media. He's still there selling tech grade 30-35% peroxide at a reasonable price.

maj
(Hive Bee)
11-09-04 13:40
No 540638
User Picture       Peroxygens

Also if you know of anyone that works in the garment business you can pick some up. Generally it used when materials are dyed (I.E. the bandannas at convience stores)it is used for the bleaching of pulp. This peroxide is quite potent. While unsure of content it is atleast above 50%.

I took the one less traveled by,And that has made all the difference.

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		fnord (Hive Bee) 11-06-04 20:46 No 540058				30% h202
						swim recently found a cleaner that contains 30% h202 any ideas on how to clean this up? and could it posibly be used to reduce p-phed to methcathinon? (www.h2o2.com) industrialism is infecting us like syphalis



		embezzler (Hive Addict) 11-06-04 21:51 No 540071				what do you mean clean it up?
						if you mean increase the % h2o2 it can be distilled but this is dangerous with peroxides. chemically enhanced.



		fnord (Hive Bee) 11-06-04 22:29 No 540074				yup
						yup thats dangourus.but what i want is to remove the other 70% and end up with 90% H202 ive heard frezzing will take 3 percent up to 25-30.but that wouldent workin my situation. what aboute EtOH? then evaperating at room temp? what would be the ratio of H2O2/ether in the extract? ive read that ether wont form peroxides with H202 only h20 is this true? fume hoods are for pussys



		Novice (Hive Bee) 11-06-04 22:48 No 540076				Ethers form peroxides when exposed to light...
						Ethers form peroxides when exposed to light and oxygen (O₂). Since H₂O₂ is miscible with water I'd say it's probably not very useful to try and extract it with ether. Look up the solubility of hydrogen peroxide in ether in Merck. And what about EtOH? How would you extract H₂O₂ with something that also is miscible with water? The only practical way to concentrate H₂O₂/H₂O is by vacuum distillation IMHO, and it's a pretty perilous way to do it...



		embezzler (Hive Addict) 11-06-04 22:53 No 540077				there are write ups
						on its distillation at sciencemadness.org if i remember correcctly chemically enhanced.



		geezmeister (Of Counsel) 11-07-04 14:35 No 540192				why not just buy some?
						Its readily available and not a watched or suspcious item. Chemical supply companies carry it, stores that sell professional cleaning supplies sell it, some pool supply companies sell it, and almost any pool supply company sells 17.5% HOOH. mostly harmless



		fnord (Hive Bee) 11-08-04 21:26 No 540478				not what i neeed
						im lookin for at least 60% for a little project i have going. on a unrelated not to my project what is the final word on reducing p-phed to meth-cathinone with h202? R.I.P GG Allen :(



		UncleFester (Popular Author) 11-09-04 01:04 No 540527				30-35% peroxide
						In one of my books somewhere, I directed to look in the alternative heath section of certain periodicals..in particular those periodicals serving the news needs of those wanting news outside the controlled media. He's still there selling tech grade 30-35% peroxide at a reasonable price.



		maj (Hive Bee) 11-09-04 13:40 No 540638				Peroxygens
						Also if you know of anyone that works in the garment business you can pick some up. Generally it used when materials are dyed (I.E. the bandannas at convience stores)it is used for the bleaching of pulp. This peroxide is quite potent. While unsure of content it is atleast above 50%. I took the one less traveled by,And that has made all the difference.

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