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GC_MS (Hive Addict) 03-03-03 10:46 No 413294 |
Ring-substituted beta-methoxyphenylethylamines (Rated as: excellent) |
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The following article has been requested by one of the more active Bees of this forum: D Lemaire, P Jacob III, AT Shulgin. Ring Substituted beta-methoxyphenethylamines: a New Class of Psychotomimetic Agents Active in Man. J Pharm Pharmacol 37 (1985) 575-577. It appeared to me that only the synthesis part was needed, so that will be the only part I'm presenting right now. [...] 2-methoxy-2-(2,5-dimethoxy-4-methylphenyl)-ethylamine - A suspension of 2,5-dimethoxy-4-methyl-beta-nitrostyrene (Ho et al 1970) (39 g) in warm methanol (300 mL) was treated with a solution of sodium methoxide (9 g sodium in 150 mL MeOH). After a few minutes (when the solution was complete and nearly colourless) aetic acid (75 mL) was added followed by water (2000 mL) and the reaction mixture was extracted with methylene chloride (3 x 200 mL). The extracts were pooled, and the solvent removed under vacuum to yield an oil which was diluted with a small amount of MeOH and held for 4 h at 0°C. They yellow crystals that formed were removed by filtration, and recrystallized from MeOH to yield 11.1 g of 2-methoxy-2-(2,5-dimethoxy-4-methylphenyl)-1-nitroethane, mp 78-79°C. This intermediate (in anhydrous THF) was added to an ice-cold solution of aluminium hydride (prepared from 96 mL of 1 M LiAlH4 in THF and 2.4 mL 100% sulphuric acid) and brought to reflux for 2h. The excess hydride was destroyed with IPA, and 15% aqueous NaOH was added untill all solids were white and filterable. The filtrate was evaporated to a residual amber oil which was dissolved in methylene chloride and extracted with dilute sulphuric acid. These aqueous extracts were pooled, made basic with 25% NaOH, and re-extracted with methylene dichloride. After removal of the solvent under vacuum, the residue was distilled (0.4 mmHg, 115-128°C) yielding 5.3 g of a colourless oil. This, in IPA (15 mL) was neutralized with concentrated HCl and treated with 70 mL diethyl ether to allow the spontaneous crystallization of the amine as the HCl salt, mp 171-172°C. 2-methoxy-2-(3,4,5-trimethoxyphenyl)-ethylamine - was prepared in a similar manner from 2-methoxy-2-(3,4,5-trimethoxyphenyl)-1-nitroethane (mp 143-144°C) and isolated as the HCl salt, mp 198.5-199.5°C. 2-methoxy-2-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-ethylamine - was prepared in a similar manner from 2-methoxy-2-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-1-nitroethane (mp 58-59°C) and isolated as the HCl salt, mp 152-153°C. 2-methoxy-2-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-ethylamine - 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-beta-nitrostyrene was prepared from 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde (Barfknecht & Nichols 1971) with ammonium acetate in nitromethane (yellow crystals, mp 157-158°C). This nitrostyrene was converted to 2-methoxy-2-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-1-nitroethane (mp 119-120°C) and reduced to the amine as described above. HCl salt, mp 187-188°C. References: - CF Barfknecht, DE Nichols. J Med Chem 14 (1971) 370-372 - BT Ho, LW Tansey, RL Balster, R An, WM McIsaac, RT Harris. J Med Chem 13 (1970) 134-135 Abusus non tollit usum |
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Rhodium (Chief Bee) 03-03-03 22:11 No 413424 |
Pihkal #14 - BOD | |||||||
Ahaa! Nice, this seems to be what's called "BOD" in Pihkal #14... But - Isn't 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-beta-nitrostyrene supposed to be featured in that article? |
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GC_MS (Hive Addict) 03-04-03 08:38 No 413590 |
DOB etc | |||||||
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imp (Newbee) 10-31-03 19:15 No 468014 |
How about these possibilities? (Rated as: excellent) |
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SWIM thinks this is related to this thread... A facile procedure for the synthesis of novel beta-alkoxy and beta-alkylthio substituted phenethylamines and ALPHA-METHYLATED phenethylamines. Yes, we can do this on nitropropenes too, making the corresponding beta-alkoxy amphetamines! SWIM has never seen any report of their synthesis or pharmacological activity, only for plain beta-methoxylated phenethylamines. The procedure is so easy and so OTC, anybee can do it... ref: Chem. Let., pp 243-244, 1985 Reduction of Nitroalkenes with Stannous Chloride in Non-Acidic and Non-Aqueous Medium. Synthesis of a-substituted oximes. a,B-Unsaturated nitroalkenes are readily reduced by SnCl2.2H2O in alcoholic media to the a-alkoxy oxime derivatives in high yields. In the presence of ethanethiol, the corresponding a-alkylthio oximes are formed. We have been investigating the potential utility of nitroalkenes for the rapid synthesis of amphetamine derivatives. It was recently reported that functionally substituted aromatic nitro compounds are readily reduced to the corresponding amines by tin(II) chloride in non-acidic media. The mildness of the reaction prompted us to explore the utility of this reagent for the reductions of conjugated nitroalkenes. We wish to report a new, high yield synthesis of a-substituted oximes using SnCl2.2H2O in alcoholic media. The experimental procedure is straightforward. The alcohol or thiol (15 mL) was added to a mixture of nitroalkene (4 mmol) and stannous chloride (6 mmol) and then the reaction mixture was stirred at room temperature. A mildly exothermic reaction ensued which was accompanied by the disappearance of yellow coloration (nitroalkene). After 20 min, the reaction mixture was carefully poured onto ice. The pH of the solution was adjusted to ~8 via the addition of 5% aqueous sodium bicarbonate and then the product was extracted into ether. The organic phase was washed with brine, dried (MgSO4) and the solvent removed under reduced pressure to yield an essentially pure product. Chromatography on silica gel (5% ether/pet. ether) provided analytically pure samples. They only try it on 1-phenyl-2-nitroethene and 1-phenyl-2-nitropropene but they generalize all nitroalkenes. Yields were normally in the 85-90% range, with one case at 71%. So if we want to make the compound BOB in pihkal, we take 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxynitroethene, dissolve it in some MeOH and add a dash of SnCl2. Isolate the beta-methoxylated aldoxime then reduce to the amine (4-bromo-2,5,beta-trimethoxyphenethylamine). For the beta-ethoxylated compound, we just perform the reaction in EtOH instead. Now if we wanted to make a new and potentially VERY interesting compound, we use the procedure on 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxynitropropene and make the ketoxime, then reduce to form the 4-bromo-2,5,beta-trimethoxyamphetamine! And what about 1-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-1-(m)ethylthio-2-ethylamine? Anybody have good refs. for a mild zinc mediated reduction of oximes? Something that wouldn't hydrolyse the methoxyl group to form the phenylpropanolamine analog (ooooohhhh, how about oxidation to substituted cathinones? - are there any reports on 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxycathinone?) And what about some substituted aminorex compounds? SWIM's receptors are salivating at the possibilities. Using this to prepare 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenylpropanolamine might be better than Post 460135 (Bandil: "Synthesis of 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-PPA", Methods Discourse). Edit: Just calculated that SWIM has spent upwards of $200 worth of drug-related photocopies at the library so far this year. SWIM has spent more on photocopies than on telephone calls for the entire year... maybe a change in lifestyle is required. |
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Rhodium (Chief Bee) 10-31-03 20:18 No 468024 |
Zn reduction of oximes | |||||||
Zn reduction of oximes: Post 194987 (Rhodium: "Reduction of Imines Using Zinc Powder", Chemistry Discourse) |
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imp (Newbee) 10-31-03 20:38 No 468028 |
More related... (Rated as: excellent) |
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Firstly, thank you Rhodium. Secondly, SWIM has a large collection of papers using SnCl2 as a reducing agent. Mostly for nitroalkene --> oximes... SnCl2 + nitroalkene in acetone ---> oxime (65-75% yields) SnCl2 + nitroalkene in AcOEt ---> oxime (90% + yields) Na2SnO2(aq) + nitroalkene ---> oxime (70-90% yields) Varma & Kabalka are the authors for all of them. They have done so much work on amphetamine synthesis using very accessible reducing agents (SnCl2, CrCl2). If anyone is interested SWIM can post the papers. Now back to the topic, SWIM also dug up some German refs detailing an almost identical beta-methoxy substitution... ref. Ber., 93, pp 32 (1960) Uber die Reduktion von Nitroolefinen mit Zinn(II)-Chlorid a-Methoxy-a-phenyl-aceton-oxim : Einer Suspension von 80 g 2-Nitro-1-phenyl-propen-(1) in 100 ccm Methanol lieB man unter Ruhren und Kuhlung eine Losung von 116 g Zinn(II)-chlorid in 60 g Salzsaure und 60 ccm Methanol langsam im Laufe von 90 Min. zutropfen. AnschlieBend wurde noch 1/2 Stde. bei Raumtemperatur weitergeruhrt, dann mit 750 ccm Wasser verdunnt und das dabei ausfallende Ol mit Ather ausgeschuttelt. Die ather. Losung wurde dreimal mit ver. Salzsaure, dann mit Weinsaurelosung und Wasser gewaschen und das Losungsmittel i. Vak. entfernt. Der Ruckstand erstarrte beim Kuhlen und Anreiben mit dem Glasstab zu einem Kristallbrei. Dieser wurde abgesaugt und auf Ton getrocknet. Das Rohprodukt (66 g) wurde in einer Losung von 25 g Kaliumhydroxyd in 100 ccm Wasser gelost, nach dem Verdunnen mit 500 ccm Wasser mit Kohle behandelt, filtriert und aus dem Filtrat durch langsames Eintropfen von 20-proz. Essigsaure unter Kuhlung das Oxim IIa in kristalliner Form ausgefallt. Die Kristalle wurden abgesaugt, mit Wasser gewaschen und auf Ton getrocknet. Ausb. 58 g (66% d. Th.). Schmp. 59-61 (aus Petrolather). |
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imp (Newbee) 11-03-03 02:05 No 468412 |
Sulphur analogues of Aminorex & Cathinone | |||||||
Can somebody translate that above? Flippie, are you around? - you did an excellent job last time. Has anyone ever considered novel sulphur analogues of aminorex and cathinone? As a basic example say we wanted to make 1-phenyl-1-ethylthio-2-aminopropane (beta-ethylthioamphetamine). So we use the SnCl2 procedure to make the oxime and then apply a bit more of a rigourous reduction procedure like the one used in pihkal BOHD. This will, should, cause hydrolysis of the ethylthio group on the beta-carbon to form the free thio phenylpropanolamine analogue, 1-phenyl-1-thio-2-aminopropane. Now we can cyclize to form the aminorex compound, 2-amino-4-methyl-5-phenylthiazoline. Let’s not forget Patent GB793965, which is also a good route to these analogues. Extend this idea to ring-substituted amphetamines, and some yummy things are possible... 2-amino-4-methyl-5-(4-thiocyanato-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)thiazoline. Are there any -SH to =S oxidation procedures to form the thione analogue of cathinone? How about starting from cathinone or methcathinone - can't we replace the =O directly? Dissolve cathinone in HCl saturated ethanol then bubble in H2S... R2C=O + H2S --HCl--> R2C=S + H2O Is anybody actually interested in these ideas? SWIM will go to the library just for curiosity sake, but if everyone is just interested in methamphetamine and MDMA then SWIM doesn't want to waste time. If people are actually interested then SWIM will search much harder for relevant articles. Mmmmmmm, just imagine the possibilities... indole to 3-(2-nitropropenyl)indole via DMANP (see rhodium's), and then follow the reaction scheme to form 2-amino-1-(3-indolyl)propanol. From here we make the aminorex and cathinone analogues 2-amino-4-methyl-5-indolyloxazoline and 3-(2-aminopropionyl)indole. How about the sulphur analogues 2-amino-4-methyl-5-indolylthiazoline and 2-amino-1-(3-indolyl)propan-1-thione? (Sorry if there are any nomenclature issues, SWIM tried to be consistent... maybe that should have been 2-amino-1-(3-indolyl)propanone .) Of course the ultimate goal of all this is to create new states of drug-induced psychedelic euphoria. High can never really be high enough! |
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imp (Newbee) 11-03-03 23:46 No 468573 |
Phenylnitroalkenes to Oximes using SnCl2 (Rated as: good read) |
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As requested, here are more refs for this type of reaction... (SWIM doesn't want to type them, but can scan them this week IF REQUESTED!) -Synth. Comm., 18(7), 693-697 (1988) Post 494625 (Rhodium: "Nitroalkene reduction with Tin(II) - full articles", Novel Discourse) [Ethyl acetate solvent is excellent for both aldoxime and ketoxime formation.] -Chem. Ind., pp. 735 (1985) [Acetone solvent. Unsuitable for aldoxime formation, but excellent for ketoxime] -Tet. Lett., vol. 26, No. 49, pp. 6013-6014 (1985) Post 494625 (Rhodium: "Nitroalkene reduction with Tin(II) - full articles", Novel Discourse) [SnCl2 + NaOH (aq) --> Na2SnO2 (aq). Again, gives excellent yields with ketoximes, but is unsuitable for aldoximes] Other ----- -Tet. Lett., vol. 25, No. 8, pp. 839-842 (1984) [This uses SnCl2 to selectively reduce aromatic nitro groups in an EtOH slurry with very high yields (always >90%) -Synth. Comm., pp. 1325 (1985) [Uses CrCl2 for nitroalkene --> oxime] Come people, what do you think about the sulphur analog idea SWIM posted above?? |
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imp (Newbee) 11-10-03 03:33 No 469924 |
Methylthio- not so easy | |||||||
GC_MS, SWIM is somewhat interested in the beta-alkylthio compounds, but unfortunetly it will going to be a lot harder to make the beta-methylthio compounds. Methanethiol boils at 6C, so it is uncertain if we can use the SnCl2 procedure to introduce it to the beta carbon on the aliphatic chain. Furthermore, the beta-ethylthio will likely be a weaker compound, as there are hints that longer chains might abolish the activity that the parent compound would have had (analogous to 2-aminobutanes). One might be able to start from the beta-ethylthio compound, hydrolise, apply amine protection, methylate the free thiol, then deprotection. A bit involved. SWIM really liked the idea of a methylaminorex sulphur analogue. But since people don't seem to be interested in it, then have people considered 4-ethylaminorex?... 2-amino-4-ethyl-5-phenyloxazoline. It should be realized through cyclization of 1-phenyl-2-aminobutanol with cyanogen. It probably would be less potent than methylaminorex, but that's not what SWIM is interested in. Perhaps halo-ethylaminorex compounds wouldn't be as toxic as the methyl counterparts... that would be very interesting. How the hell can no one be interested in 2-amino-4-methyl-5-indolyloxazoline? An aminorex analogue of a tryptamine, that just sounds sexy. No? Pffft, fine. Sorry, but SWIM is not the biggest of Shulgin fans... SWIM would prefer not to discuss their reasons. |
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GC_MS (Hive Addict) 11-11-03 09:06 No 470143 |
Beta-thio PEA analogues | |||||||
Well, I'd say you could synthesize the beta-thio PEAs in two different ways (probably more, but these are the ones I have in mind right now): - reaction of RS- with a nitrostyrene. In case of MeSH, you should work at low temperatures. - reaction of a benzaldehyde, RSH and MeNO2 (or others) to yield a 1-phenyl-1-thio-2-nitroethane. If MeSH has a low boiling point, working at low temperatures or constantly bubbling in generated MeSH might be a solution, no? Advanced clitoris massage specialist. 32 years of experience. PM me for a "sample". |
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Vitus_Verdegast (Hive Addict) 11-12-03 13:35 No 470467 |
Translation of Ber., 93, pp 32 (1960) (Rated as: excellent) |
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Here is the translation of the synthesis posted in Post 468028 (imp: "More related...", Methods Discourse): alpha-Methoxy-alpha-phenyl acetone oxime: To a suspension of 80 g 2-Nitro-1-phenylpropene (1) in 100 ccm methanol was dripped in slowly, over 90 min., a solution of 116 g tin(II)chloride in 60 g hydrochloric acid and 60 ccm methanol with stirring and cooling.The mixture was allowed to stir for an additional half an hour at ambient temperature, diluted with 750 ccm water and the precipitating oil was extracted with ether. The ethereal extract was washed 3 times with dil. HCl, once with a tartaric acid solution, and once with water, and the ether was evaporated in vacuo, yielding a crystalline mass, after cooling and scratching the residue with a glass rod. This was sucked dry on clay. The raw product (66 g) was dissolved in a solution of 25 g potassium hydroxide in 100 ccm water, this was diluted with 500 ccm water, treated with activated carbon, filtered and slowly acidified by adding a 20% AcOH solution dropwise with cooling. The crystalline oxime IIa precipitates from solution, they were filtered off on a Buchner, washed with water, and dried on clay (ton ?). Yield: 58 g (66% theoretical), mp. 59-61°C (from petroleum ether). Consult the Hive psychiater (http://www.geocities.com/eric_vornoff/index.htm) |
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Rhodium (Chief Bee) 11-12-03 14:08 No 470471 |
Clay | |||||||
At least in earlier times, it was common to dry crystals by spreading them on a porous ceramic surface. |
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Manichi (Stranger) 11-13-03 03:22 No 470584 |
5-phenyl-2-amino-thiazolin-4-one: inactive | |||||||
Imp: Has anyone ever considered novel sulphur analogues of aminorex and cathinone? I have considered the pemoline thio analogue, and according to Bull. soc. chim. Fr. 1963 (5) 1018-1022 it is inactive when you replace the O in the ring of the pemoline by the sulfur atom. I dont known about thio-4-MAR analog, but pemoline and 4-MAR are strikingly similar and then i would not expect much of thio-4-MAR neither. Beside that a quick search on the thio-4-MAR analog yielded only a few refs on antiviral and antifungicide activity, nothing of stimulant activity. ...sorry for the disapointment. |
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imp (Newbee) 11-13-03 07:28 No 470612 |
Thanks Manichi! | |||||||
...sorry for the disapointment. No, this is not disappointment at all! It is good that we found out, thank you. Yes, 2-amino-5-phenylthiazoline-4-one is very close to pemoline and 4-mar. Although it is not 100%, we can probably say with some confidence that they will be inactive. Thank you for clearing this up. What about the thione analogues ? Okay, SWIM has one more idea for you! SWIM promises this is the last one... Please anyone answer!... Getting back to beta-substitutions, do you think a beta-methyl group on the aliphatic chain would be an active compound? Something like 1-phenyl-1-methyl-2-aminoethane, or 2-phenyl-3-aminopropane. That is strange looking! SWIM can propose a relatively simple synthesis for it, but does anyone think this will have any activity? Vitus, Manichi, Rhodium, Chimimanie, ... anyone? Edit: Ooops, almost forgot ... Thank you very much for the translation Vitus! |
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SPISSHAK 11-13-03 16:30 |
I know this is irrelavent but,
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GC_MS (Hive Addict) 01-16-04 09:58 No 482787 |
Problems with BOB... | |||||||
I have attempted a few syntheses of BOB but have encountered some problems, problems which I'd rather not like to encounter . Shulgin used 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde as direct precursor, and not 2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde. I had in mind to make 2,5-dimethoxynitrostyrene, which I reacted with NaOMe. Reduction of the nitro functional group is straightforward, and all what would be left to do was bromination to obtain BOB as end product. However, things didn't run as smooth as I hoped for. When reacting 2,5-dimethoxynitrostyrene with NaOMe, the end product is a mixture of 1-(2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-1-methoxy-2-nitroethane and 2,5-dimethoxynitrostyrene, even when using a royal excess of NaOMe. Purification is not straightforward... I'd have to apply fractional distillation to a small amount of product. It seems I have to synthesize the 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde myself now. Maybe Shulgin encountered the same problems, which pushed him into choosing the pathway via the brominated benzaldehyde? Or maybe I am overlooking something obvious? Anyone else with experience in this synthesis? And yes, the nitrostyrene was pure. Advanced clitoris massage specialist. 32 years of experience. PM me for a "sample". |
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GC_MS (Hive Addict) 02-24-04 10:38 No 490780 |
1-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-2-nitroethene (Rated as: good read) |
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Some information for those who might be interested in BOB... I have performed the synthesis of the nitrostyrene а la Shulgin with NH4OAc as catalyst and MeNO2 as solvent and reagent. The colour evolution is very similar to the reaction of 2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde and MeNO2 using the same reaction conditions. Only that the reaction takes longer (due to the deactivating role of Br). Recrystallization has been attempted with MeOH and IPA, but both solvents failed miserably. Toluene on the other hand, did a magnificent job. So if you are planning on synthesizing 1-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-2-nitroethene, just use toluene. The nitrostyrene has a magnificent yellow colour, like most of the nitrostyrenes. Advanced clitoris massage specialist. 32 years of experience. PM me for a "sample". |
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Nicodem (Hive Bee) 03-17-04 20:42 No 495783 |
beta-alkoxy-PEA paper (Rated as: excellent) |
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A paper on preparation (with no pharmacology) of beta-alkoxy-phenylethylamines. However, it also contains some interesting chemistry for possible application to DOI and 2C-I preparation (phenylnitroethanes can be iodinated with I2/Ag+ on ring position 4!): The preparation of potentially psychoactive beta-alkoxyphenethylamines. Milton Aillon Torres, Bruce Cassels and Marcos Caroli Rezende SYNTHETIC COMMUNICATIONS, 25(8), 1239-1247 (1995). Excerpt: As part of our interest in structure-activity relationships of psychotomimetic phenethylamines and their interactions with serotoninergic receptors, we describe In the present communication the preparation of a series of substituted p-alkoxyphenylethylamines. “The real drug-problem is that we need more and better drugs.” – J. Ott |
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Ganesha (Stranger) 03-19-04 19:41 No 496172 |
Good find, Nicodem! | |||||||
Too bad there is nothing on (psycho)pharmacology. Do you think that you can get reference # 1 and if possible even # 2 cited in the above paper? Thanks! 'I' am a crowd, obeying as many laws As it has members. Chemically impure Are all 'my' beings. |
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Rhodium (Chief Bee) 03-19-04 22:34 No 496200 |
Here is the experimental part from Ref #1: | |||||||
Some Fluoro and Nitro Analogs of TMA-2 and MMDA-2 Synth. Commun. 24(3), 417-426 (1994) (https://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/fluoronitro.html) The Hive - Clandestine Chemists Without Borders |
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Nicodem (Hive Bee) 03-31-04 17:13 No 498315 |
Full paper of Ref #1 (Rated as: excellent) |
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Some fluoro and nitro analogues of hallucinogenic amphetamines. Aida Neira Jara, Milton Aillon Torres, Bruce Kennedy Cassels and Marcos Caroli Rezende Synth. Commun. 24(3), 417-426 (1994) Abstract: The preparation of the fluoro and nitro analogues (2)-(5) of the hallucinogens 2,4.5-trimethoxy- and 2-methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxy-amphetamine is described. “The real drug-problem is that we need more and better drugs.” – J. Ott |
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