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Vaaguh
(Hive Bee)
07-17-04 21:22
No 519939
      indole spectra

Ok this is a long shot but who knows... perhaps someone could interpret this:

Chromatogram A: positive chemical ionisation with CH4, the most visual peak at 8,30 min

Chromatrogram B: postivie electron impact ionisation of sample (BSTFA+1% TMCIS), selected mass trace m/z 396

Chromatogram C: MS/MS

Van Urk –Salkowski reagent test colors skyblue, the compound is UV fluorescent and it was supposed to be LSD freebase but the chromatograms seems to say otherwise.

Does anybody have suggestions ?

Hippler

Chimitant
(Newbee)
07-17-04 22:43
No 519963
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I would like to help you, but are you sure the endproduct you are looking for is LSD ? Chromatogram B is made by tracing m/z 395 so an incorrect mass has been looked at? Which synthetic route was used to produce this so-called LSD freebase ?

A little poison now and then: that makes for agreeable dreams.

Vaaguh
(Hive Bee)
07-17-04 22:51
No 519964
      searched for compound

The analysis was not performed by me and am mostly puzzled about this aswell.
Highly doubtfull but possible is that the person was looking for the mass of lysergic acid diethylamide dihydrate (mass 359,46).

Hippler

Chimitant
(Newbee)
07-17-04 23:30
No 519974
User Picture       What chemicals were used?

Hmm, a nice puzzle you gave me Vaaguh....From the CI data it is difficult to tell what the mol mass is of this unknown compound. There is no clear M+1(H)/M+17(CH5) combination as you would expect for a methane CI measurement. The fragmention pattern is unknown to me and not comparable with the LSD (silylated) spectrum I´ve from literature. What else could have been attached to the acid group? You used diethylamine of sufficient purity ?

Damn, there goes my saturday night tongue

A little poison now and then: that makes for agreeable dreams.

Vaaguh
(Hive Bee)
07-17-04 23:43
No 519978
      diethylamine

You used diethylamine of sufficient purity

Not sure but assumed so crazy (CDI method by the way), thanks in advance for helping me out here

Hippler

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		Vaaguh (Hive Bee) 07-17-04 21:22 No 519939				indole spectra
						Ok this is a long shot but who knows... perhaps someone could interpret this: Chromatogram A: positive chemical ionisation with CH4, the most visual peak at 8,30 min Chromatrogram B: postivie electron impact ionisation of sample (BSTFA+1% TMCIS), selected mass trace m/z 396 Chromatogram C: MS/MS Van Urk –Salkowski reagent test colors skyblue, the compound is UV fluorescent and it was supposed to be LSD freebase but the chromatograms seems to say otherwise. Does anybody have suggestions ? Hippler



		Chimitant (Newbee) 07-17-04 22:43 No 519963				More information
						I would like to help you, but are you sure the endproduct you are looking for is LSD ? Chromatogram B is made by tracing m/z 395 so an incorrect mass has been looked at? Which synthetic route was used to produce this so-called LSD freebase ? A little poison now and then: that makes for agreeable dreams.



		Vaaguh (Hive Bee) 07-17-04 22:51 No 519964				searched for compound
						The analysis was not performed by me and am mostly puzzled about this aswell. Highly doubtfull but possible is that the person was looking for the mass of lysergic acid diethylamide dihydrate (mass 359,46). Hippler



		Chimitant (Newbee) 07-17-04 23:30 No 519974				What chemicals were used?
						Hmm, a nice puzzle you gave me Vaaguh....From the CI data it is difficult to tell what the mol mass is of this unknown compound. There is no clear M+1(H)/M+17(CH5) combination as you would expect for a methane CI measurement. The fragmention pattern is unknown to me and not comparable with the LSD (silylated) spectrum I´ve from literature. What else could have been attached to the acid group? You used diethylamine of sufficient purity ? Damn, there goes my saturday night A little poison now and then: that makes for agreeable dreams.



		Vaaguh (Hive Bee) 07-17-04 23:43 No 519978				diethylamine
						You used diethylamine of sufficient purity Not sure but assumed so (CDI method by the way), thanks in advance for helping me out here Hippler

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