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Kefka
(Stranger)
08-12-04 20:34
No 525092
      Is benzeneethanamine phenethylamine?

methylbenzeneethanamine is amphetamine, would that make benzeneethanamine phenethylamine, then?

Chairman_Mao
(Stranger)
08-12-04 20:40
No 525094
User Picture       yes

draw it out and you will see.

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Murple
(Hive Bee)
08-16-04 18:20
No 525778
      Ive noticed Canadian drug laws list all the...

Ive noticed Canadian drug laws list all the phenethylamines as benzeneethanamines. I assume they didn't do this to be deliberately obscure, so is this a case of different terms being prevalent in different countries? Is this term more prevalent in general scientific use than phenethylamine in some countries (ie, Canada) or is this just some quirk of their law code?

Nicodem
(Hive Bee)
08-16-04 21:19
No 525794
User Picture       That is an ambiguous name

Maybe they consulted an old chemist who can't stand the IUPAC rules. It must be quite a time since a "benzene group" is called phenyl and a ethane group ethyl. Anyway, the name methylbenzeneethanamine does not say enough to make it unmistakenably amphetamin. It doues not say anything on the possitions of the substituents. It could stand for N-methyl-PEA, 2-methyl-2-phenyl-ethylamine or even p-methyl-PEA and so on. Since law is supposed to be a formal, mashine-like system (the law is blind cool ) I would expect them to give precise names (IUPAC) in the list of forbiden compounds and not something like this.

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Barium
(Heavyweight Chempion(eer))
08-17-04 01:51
No 525828
      Sigh!

If they can't use the correct IUPAC name then why don't they simply add the CAS # to avoid confusion? But I guess that would be too much to ask for.

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scarmani
(Hive Bee)
08-19-04 07:48
No 526266
User Picture       Structures of All Canadian Controlled Substances
(Rated as: good read)

Here is a beautiful way of showing an ugly law:
http://isomerdesign.com/cdsa/FullDisplay/

A map of fertile ground.

stop, drop & roll

Chimitant
(Newbee)
08-22-04 21:55
No 526808
User Picture       #CAS number

As a chemist, wouldn´t it be extremely dull to have numbers only? Not speaking of the brains one should have to remember them tongue ...

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	All 7 posts		Subject: Is benzeneethanamine phenethylamine?		Please login to post		Down


		Kefka (Stranger) 08-12-04 20:34 No 525092				Is benzeneethanamine phenethylamine?
						methylbenzeneethanamine is amphetamine, would that make benzeneethanamine phenethylamine, then?



		Chairman_Mao (Stranger) 08-12-04 20:40 No 525094				yes
						draw it out and you will see. To Be Attacked by the Enemy Is Not a Bad Thing but a Good Thing www.ccponline.net



		Murple (Hive Bee) 08-16-04 18:20 No 525778				Ive noticed Canadian drug laws list all the...
						Ive noticed Canadian drug laws list all the phenethylamines as benzeneethanamines. I assume they didn't do this to be deliberately obscure, so is this a case of different terms being prevalent in different countries? Is this term more prevalent in general scientific use than phenethylamine in some countries (ie, Canada) or is this just some quirk of their law code?



		Nicodem (Hive Bee) 08-16-04 21:19 No 525794				That is an ambiguous name
						Maybe they consulted an old chemist who can't stand the IUPAC rules. It must be quite a time since a "benzene group" is called phenyl and a ethane group ethyl. Anyway, the name methylbenzeneethanamine does not say enough to make it unmistakenably amphetamin. It doues not say anything on the possitions of the substituents. It could stand for N-methyl-PEA, 2-methyl-2-phenyl-ethylamine or even p-methyl-PEA and so on. Since law is supposed to be a formal, mashine-like system (the law is blind) I would expect them to give precise names (IUPAC) in the list of forbiden compounds and not something like this. “The real drug-problem is that we need more and better drugs.” – J. Ott



		Barium (Heavyweight Chempion(eer)) 08-17-04 01:51 No 525828				Sigh!
						If they can't use the correct IUPAC name then why don't they simply add the CAS # to avoid confusion? But I guess that would be too much to ask for. Severe Aztecoholic and President of Sooty's fanclub - Sooty for President!!



		scarmani (Hive Bee) 08-19-04 07:48 No 526266				Structures of All Canadian Controlled Substances (Rated as: good read)
						Here is a beautiful way of showing an ugly law: http://isomerdesign.com/cdsa/FullDisplay/ A map of fertile ground. stop, drop & roll



		Chimitant (Newbee) 08-22-04 21:55 No 526808				#CAS number
						As a chemist, wouldn´t it be extremely dull to have numbers only? Not speaking of the brains one should have to remember them ... I prefer my imagination. A little poison now and then: that makes for agreeable dreams.

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