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er0x (Stranger) 10-08-04 04:40 No 534918 |
5,7dichlorokynurenic acid a potent nmda antagonist | |||||||
Searched and could not find much info on 5,7dichlorokynurenic acid. It is one of the most potent nmda antagonists known. It is compared to TCP (potent PCP analog) and dizocilpine +MK801. The only info I could find on dosage was for intra-cerebral-injections which is obviously no good. I need info on oral, IM or SC doses. Also need info on kynurenic acid (dose,fx,etc...) |
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Nicodem (Hive Bee) 10-08-04 08:55 No 534937 |
Kynurenic acid and practically all of its... | |||||||
Kynurenic acid and practically all of its derivatives are inactive. They are not lipophylic enough to pass the blood-brain barrier. Unless you want to administer trough a hole in the brain I suggest you find some other idea. I think there are only very few NMDA complex/glycine receptor antagonists that could potentially pass the BBB. I must have a relevant paper somewhere that will post if I find it. “The real drug-problem is that we need more and better drugs.” – J. Ott |
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java (Hive Addict) 10-08-04 15:57 No 534962 |
Ref. summaries to 5,7,dichlorokynurenic acid...... | |||||||
In searching through the web ,I was able to find these summaries that may be of help.....java
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er0x (Stranger) 10-08-04 17:33 No 534970 |
damn that sux! | |||||||
intra-cerebro-ventricular-injections. Sounds like important research.... NOT! How would ICV research benefit anyone who doesn't have a fucking hole in thier head. Anyway, I read that there is some preliminary research which says attaching a vitamin-C molecule to it may allow it to pass the BBB. How would one go about that/Would it be worth it??? Any thoughtz |
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Nicodem (Hive Bee) 10-10-04 11:27 No 535175 |
Glycine-Site NMDA Receptor Antagonists review | |||||||
This strychnine-insensitive glycine receptor antagonists review is quite pessimistic for those of us who would like to see new dissociatives based on NMDA receptor inhibition mediated through its Gly site. Many antagonists, including kyuneric acid analogues, are described but none of them looks very potent and capable of penetrating trough the BBB at the same time. However for consolation only, this is a review older than ten years and there must have been some progress since. Glycine-Site N-Methyl-D-Aspartate Receptor Antagonists Paul D. Leeson in Drug Design for Neuroscience, edited by Alan P Korikowski, New York: Raven Press (1993) pp. 339-381 INTRODUCTION Actions of Glycine in the Central Nervous System The amino acid glycine has both inhibitory and excitatory actions in the CNS. It has been known for many years that glycine is the major inhibitory neurotransmitter in lower brain regions, acting on strychnine-sensitive receptors in the brainstem and spinal cord. The inhibitory receptor offers limited potential as a target site for therapeutic intervention. but interest in the structurally simplest amino acid was greatly stimulated by the discovery in 1987 of an unexpected excitatory role for glycine in the CNS. Johnson and Ascher (I) demonstrated that glycine profoundly amplifies responses of the N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA) subtype of excitatory amino acid receptor. This novel effect of glycine is not blocked by strychnine and is best explained by the existence of a separate site for glycine on the NMDA receptor. Occupation of this glycine site appears to be an absolute requirement for NMDA receptor activation and has led to the concept that glycine acts as a "coagonist" in concert with the neurotransmitter glutamic acid (2), a unique requirement among neurotransmitter receptors. Mechanisms regulating the physiological role of glycine at NMDA receptors are not as yet fully understood. Although the concentrations of glycine in extracellular and cerebrospinal fluid are above micromolar, evidence from in vivo studies with glycine agonists suggests that the glycine site may not be fully saturated. Currently it seems likely that the phasic release to glutamate from nerve terminals mediates synaptic transmission and that changes in extracellular concentrations of glycine will "modulate" the response mediated by NMDA receptors. “The real drug-problem is that we need more and better drugs.” – J. Ott |
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