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pablos
(Stranger)
10-08-04 16:42
No 534965
      MeOH from race fluel

Assumption:
One poor Bee has already read the whole mails about nitromethane destillation from Race fluel (Papierkrann).
He has already Nitromethan in great purity but he wants the fucked methanol to make MeI or DMS to use his fucked bromo and iodo vanilline. He knows that Nitro and Methanol forms a azeotrope. What will be the best route to become pure methanol? Distillation and washing to separate nitro from methanol with saturated brine (enough brine but no to much) or washing to separate them and then distillation of the brine/methanol solution? Is it possible to obtain this way pure methanol (nitrom free) ?thanks blush

maj
(Stranger)
10-08-04 16:46
No 534966
User Picture       Visit your local auto parts store. ;-)

Visit your local auto parts store. wink

pablos
(Stranger)
10-08-04 17:26
No 534969
      of course

Of course this would help assumed the antifreeze had just a littlebit more than 10% methanol, thanks for the advice.
I have 1L race fluel wich 75% is methnol and I would like this 75%, this is my problem.

bio
(Hive Bee)
10-11-04 09:30
No 535322
      Na Salt

Look in Vogel for forming the nitro salt with NaOH. It also says how much NaCl to use when distilling with water/MeOH.

r2e3
(Hive Bee)
10-11-04 18:24
No 535377
      your nitro supplier

will probably sell virtually pure(>99%)MeOH (nothing silica gel wont cure)

Getting nitro in my experience is more difficult than methanol.

Where are you? US EU?

maj
(Stranger)
10-11-04 18:33
No 535380
User Picture       In my journies the only thing my local ...

In my journies the only thing my local supplier carried was not 10%MeOh. It is all methyl alchol for the most part or nothing that can't be taken care of.

bong
(Stranger)
10-12-04 05:31
No 535474
      Where are you? US EU?

Where are you? US EU?

How about SWIM is in AU or China?
I am also wondering that if any bee is from China.
SWIM has a problem with all the Chinese chemical names. He only knows chemicals in their English IUPAC names. Does any bee know where I can find English to Chinese translation for chemicals names? I have UTFSE, but it seems nothing is really helpful...

pablos
(Stranger)
10-12-04 11:19
No 535516
      Na salt

Nitromethane + Naoh give the dangerous Nitrosalt very unstable. The mathanol was distilled at 64-65 grad.
Maybe there is a 3-5% nitro in it. Would thats be a problem if I tried to do MeI or DMS with it (Side reaction etc..)?

maj
(Newbee)
10-12-04 11:20
No 535517
User Picture       Translation

http://www.njstar.com/

This is a link to download free software that will get you on your translating way. It cover chinese, japanese, and I think other eastern asian languages.

bong
(Stranger)
10-12-04 14:33
No 535530
      Nah, the NJStart doesn't work for translating...

Nah, the NJStart doesn't work for translating chemical names, maybe it is just me... frown

maj
(Newbee)
10-12-04 15:31
No 535536
User Picture       Here we go

You will have to pay for this I am pretty sure. However, it translates according to what field you need your particular "dictionary of words ". For instance they have chemical engineering, biology, ecology and more. I hope this can be of some service to you.

www.allvirtualware.com/languages/ japanese_chinese

r2e3
(Hive Bee)
10-13-04 19:32
No 535698
      all you need

is the chemical structure of the molecule. they are depicted in a format recognised by all nations, yes IUPAC - the point being so that anyone can understand, hence the 'international' bit

lets face it, methanol isn't exactly the most complicated chemical in the world. anybody with a rudimentary knowledge of chemistry should be able to find alternative names in any language that they speak

fnord
(Hive Bee)
11-06-04 21:17
No 540067
User Picture       dry gas

some types of dry gas and windshield de-icer contain "asaik"95-99% MeOh

fumehoods are for girlymen

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		pablos (Stranger) 10-08-04 16:42 No 534965				MeOH from race fluel
						Assumption: One poor Bee has already read the whole mails about nitromethane destillation from Race fluel (Papierkrann). He has already Nitromethan in great purity but he wants the fucked methanol to make MeI or DMS to use his fucked bromo and iodo vanilline. He knows that Nitro and Methanol forms a azeotrope. What will be the best route to become pure methanol? Distillation and washing to separate nitro from methanol with saturated brine (enough brine but no to much) or washing to separate them and then distillation of the brine/methanol solution? Is it possible to obtain this way pure methanol (nitrom free) ?thanks



		maj (Stranger) 10-08-04 16:46 No 534966				Visit your local auto parts store. ;-)
						Visit your local auto parts store.



		pablos (Stranger) 10-08-04 17:26 No 534969				of course
						Of course this would help assumed the antifreeze had just a littlebit more than 10% methanol, thanks for the advice. I have 1L race fluel wich 75% is methnol and I would like this 75%, this is my problem.



		bio (Hive Bee) 10-11-04 09:30 No 535322				Na Salt
						Look in Vogel for forming the nitro salt with NaOH. It also says how much NaCl to use when distilling with water/MeOH.



		r2e3 (Hive Bee) 10-11-04 18:24 No 535377				your nitro supplier
						will probably sell virtually pure(>99%)MeOH (nothing silica gel wont cure) Getting nitro in my experience is more difficult than methanol. Where are you? US EU?



		maj (Stranger) 10-11-04 18:33 No 535380				In my journies the only thing my local ...
						In my journies the only thing my local supplier carried was not 10%MeOh. It is all methyl alchol for the most part or nothing that can't be taken care of.



		bong (Stranger) 10-12-04 05:31 No 535474				Where are you? US EU?
						Where are you? US EU? How about SWIM is in AU or China? I am also wondering that if any bee is from China. SWIM has a problem with all the Chinese chemical names. He only knows chemicals in their English IUPAC names. Does any bee know where I can find English to Chinese translation for chemicals names? I have UTFSE, but it seems nothing is really helpful...



		pablos (Stranger) 10-12-04 11:19 No 535516				Na salt
						Nitromethane + Naoh give the dangerous Nitrosalt very unstable. The mathanol was distilled at 64-65 grad. Maybe there is a 3-5% nitro in it. Would thats be a problem if I tried to do MeI or DMS with it (Side reaction etc..)?



		maj (Newbee) 10-12-04 11:20 No 535517				Translation
						http://www.njstar.com/ This is a link to download free software that will get you on your translating way. It cover chinese, japanese, and I think other eastern asian languages.



		bong (Stranger) 10-12-04 14:33 No 535530				Nah, the NJStart doesn't work for translating...
						Nah, the NJStart doesn't work for translating chemical names, maybe it is just me...



		maj (Newbee) 10-12-04 15:31 No 535536				Here we go
						You will have to pay for this I am pretty sure. However, it translates according to what field you need your particular "dictionary of words ". For instance they have chemical engineering, biology, ecology and more. I hope this can be of some service to you. www.allvirtualware.com/languages/ japanese_chinese



		r2e3 (Hive Bee) 10-13-04 19:32 No 535698				all you need
						is the chemical structure of the molecule. they are depicted in a format recognised by all nations, yes IUPAC - the point being so that anyone can understand, hence the 'international' bit lets face it, methanol isn't exactly the most complicated chemical in the world. anybody with a rudimentary knowledge of chemistry should be able to find alternative names in any language that they speak



		fnord (Hive Bee) 11-06-04 21:17 No 540067				dry gas
						some types of dry gas and windshield de-icer contain "asaik"95-99% MeOh fumehoods are for girlymen

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