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ScuzZ
(Hive Addict)
10-12-04 13:56
No 535528
      Interesting Problem

Swim has encountered Program A.

Program A enjoys connecting to the internet to make sure if updates are available it can notify the user. If no internet connection is available then the program will not operate.

Is there a way to:
1. Intercept these 'packets' and make it look like there is an internet connection there.
2. Write/Edit packets so that the packets that are returned are what is expected, therefore the program will work.

If so.. How.. ?

TheHitMan
(Newbee)
10-12-04 16:56
No 535542
      It would help if we knew what "Program A

It would help if we knew what "Program A" was..

Be more specific!

ScuzZ
(Hive Addict)
10-12-04 22:35
No 535584
      That's what it's called Program A.

That's what it's called Program A.

It's used to log your internet usage. Because swim isn't online all the time he likes to check up how much he's downloaded/uploaded occassionally, but the program won't open without the internet.

Says "No internet connection, Program A is now shutting down"

It's a program written specifically for my ISP.

ChemisTris
(Hive Bee)
10-12-04 23:18
No 535589
User Picture       >but the program won't open without the...

>but the program won't open without the internet.
I imagine all the usage data is kept on their end, so patching the progam to skip the internet connectivity check wouldn't help.

Got democracy?http://www.dhushara.com/book/multinet/democ/wed.htm

ScuzZ
(Hive Addict)
10-13-04 01:03
No 535596
      The data is locally stored in a .dat file.

The data is locally stored in a .dat file.

Unfortunately when opening the file all I get is garble.

If I can tell the program that there is an internet connection by someway intercepting it's outgoing packets and returning a 'rewritten packet chain' it would open up and allow me to retrieve info.

Organikum
(Wonderful Personality)
10-15-04 11:33
No 535952
      - Use one of the thousands of freewareprograms

- Use one of the thousands of freewareprograms available to monitor your internet useage.
- Use another provider, this one is spying at you.

so near, so far......

Osmium
(Stoni's sexual toy)
10-16-04 00:35
No 536022
User Picture       Your ISP sucks

> If I can tell the program that there is an internet connection by someway
> intercepting it's outgoing packets

You can listen to and record the data leaving your computer and coming in with a network protocol analyzer, also known as sniffer, e.g. ethereal. This software can run on your own computer or on another one.
You can redirect the traffic by adding a false IP number for the server communicating with that software to your lmhosts file. If you assign the IP number of 127.0.0.1 to that spyware.isp.net server then the software will expect to find that server on your computer.

> and returning a 'rewritten packet chain'

You could then feed that software with some old, prerecorded communication data, either by using netcat, or maybe setting up a server running on the same port that this software communicates with.

There is also software available which will let you create whatever IP packets you want. Forgot the name though.

> it would open up and allow me to retrieve info.

What if they use some sort of authentification algorithm? or even encryption? Or all the sofware does is transmitting that .dat file? Or transittig the data in a proprietary format that you won't be able to understand?
Seems like it's not worth all that trouble

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		ScuzZ (Hive Addict) 10-12-04 13:56 No 535528				Interesting Problem
						Swim has encountered Program A. Program A enjoys connecting to the internet to make sure if updates are available it can notify the user. If no internet connection is available then the program will not operate. Is there a way to: 1. Intercept these 'packets' and make it look like there is an internet connection there. 2. Write/Edit packets so that the packets that are returned are what is expected, therefore the program will work. If so.. How.. ?



		TheHitMan (Newbee) 10-12-04 16:56 No 535542				It would help if we knew what "Program A
						It would help if we knew what "Program A" was.. Be more specific!



		ScuzZ (Hive Addict) 10-12-04 22:35 No 535584				That's what it's called Program A.
						That's what it's called Program A. It's used to log your internet usage. Because swim isn't online all the time he likes to check up how much he's downloaded/uploaded occassionally, but the program won't open without the internet. Says "No internet connection, Program A is now shutting down" It's a program written specifically for my ISP.



		ChemisTris (Hive Bee) 10-12-04 23:18 No 535589				>but the program won't open without the...
						>but the program won't open without the internet. I imagine all the usage data is kept on their end, so patching the progam to skip the internet connectivity check wouldn't help. Got democracy?http://www.dhushara.com/book/multinet/democ/wed.htm



		ScuzZ (Hive Addict) 10-13-04 01:03 No 535596				The data is locally stored in a .dat file.
						The data is locally stored in a .dat file. Unfortunately when opening the file all I get is garble. If I can tell the program that there is an internet connection by someway intercepting it's outgoing packets and returning a 'rewritten packet chain' it would open up and allow me to retrieve info.



		Organikum (Wonderful Personality) 10-15-04 11:33 No 535952				- Use one of the thousands of freewareprograms
						- Use one of the thousands of freewareprograms available to monitor your internet useage. - Use another provider, this one is spying at you. so near, so far......



		Osmium (Stoni's sexual toy) 10-16-04 00:35 No 536022				Your ISP sucks
						> If I can tell the program that there is an internet connection by someway > intercepting it's outgoing packets You can listen to and record the data leaving your computer and coming in with a network protocol analyzer, also known as sniffer, e.g. ethereal. This software can run on your own computer or on another one. You can redirect the traffic by adding a false IP number for the server communicating with that software to your lmhosts file. If you assign the IP number of 127.0.0.1 to that spyware.isp.net server then the software will expect to find that server on your computer. > and returning a 'rewritten packet chain' You could then feed that software with some old, prerecorded communication data, either by using netcat, or maybe setting up a server running on the same port that this software communicates with. There is also software available which will let you create whatever IP packets you want. Forgot the name though. > it would open up and allow me to retrieve info. What if they use some sort of authentification algorithm? or even encryption? Or all the sofware does is transmitting that .dat file? Or transittig the data in a proprietary format that you won't be able to understand? Seems like it's not worth all that trouble BUSH/CHENEY 2004! After all, it ain't my country! www.american-buddha.com/addict.war.1.htm

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