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yogi_
(Stranger)
10-15-04 07:28
No 535920
User Picture       DeBrominating 2-bromo-ergo-alkaloids

Hello fellow bees!
Ive been lurking around for quite some time, doing some research and all. Ive wanted to post this and get some feedback.
1 recently acquired some 100grams of 2-alpha-bromocriptine mesylate.
The bee has read all about how to debrominate it here on the boards, and thinks drone's method of grignarding t in Mg(s) and then quenching with water would be effective, but some1 pointed out that yields might be low.
Anothre bee suggested the use of HBr, but stated that yields would probably also be low and the isomeric product would be achieved.
So this bee was wondering if anyone can think up a better way to debrominate it?
Here is how the bee is thinking about doing the grignard, if any1 has any comments, please add :
1. hydrolize bromocriptine -> 2-bromo-Lysergic acid
2. 2-bromo-lysergic acid + diethylamine (with pybop) -> 2-bromo-lsd.
3. dry BOL-148 in the vacuum ovev, drop in anhydrous ether+Mg(s), and let react. If reaction doesnt start, put in the ultrasonic cleaner, and sonicate.
4. add H2O after reaction is complete
5. seperate the ether layer, and titrate the lsd out with tartaric acid.
6. chromatograph and rextalize.

Can some1 point out where Ive mastakes?
Also, could 2-bromo-lysergic acid be rexytalized from water much the same as lysergic-acid?
would BOL-148 xtalize out of solution with tartaric acid?

Thanks!

yogi_52

Lilienthal
(Moderator)
10-15-04 08:51
No 535935
User Picture       Check your textbook for the reaction partners...

Check your textbook for the reaction partners of Gringnard reagents and look if such a group is present in the molecule tongue

yogi_
(Stranger)
10-16-04 01:58
No 536029
User Picture       Mendeleev Communications

Hi.
Ive foudn this article about debrominating 2-bromo-carboxylic acids, of formula RCHBrCOOH, into RCH2COOH.
Cant read it though. If anyone can link to it or put it here, it will be much appreciated -
DOI:10.1070/MC1994v004n01ABEH000332
Abstract -
2-Bromo-substituted carboxylic acids (RCHBrCOOH) undergo reductive debromination and form unsubstituted acids RCH2COOH.

yogi_52

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		yogi_ (Stranger) 10-15-04 07:28 No 535920				DeBrominating 2-bromo-ergo-alkaloids
						Hello fellow bees! Ive been lurking around for quite some time, doing some research and all. Ive wanted to post this and get some feedback. 1 recently acquired some 100grams of 2-alpha-bromocriptine mesylate. The bee has read all about how to debrominate it here on the boards, and thinks drone's method of grignarding t in Mg(s) and then quenching with water would be effective, but some1 pointed out that yields might be low. Anothre bee suggested the use of HBr, but stated that yields would probably also be low and the isomeric product would be achieved. So this bee was wondering if anyone can think up a better way to debrominate it? Here is how the bee is thinking about doing the grignard, if any1 has any comments, please add : 1. hydrolize bromocriptine -> 2-bromo-Lysergic acid 2. 2-bromo-lysergic acid + diethylamine (with pybop) -> 2-bromo-lsd. 3. dry BOL-148 in the vacuum ovev, drop in anhydrous ether+Mg(s), and let react. If reaction doesnt start, put in the ultrasonic cleaner, and sonicate. 4. add H2O after reaction is complete 5. seperate the ether layer, and titrate the lsd out with tartaric acid. 6. chromatograph and rextalize. Can some1 point out where Ive mastakes? Also, could 2-bromo-lysergic acid be rexytalized from water much the same as lysergic-acid? would BOL-148 xtalize out of solution with tartaric acid? Thanks! yogi_52



		Lilienthal (Moderator) 10-15-04 08:51 No 535935				Check your textbook for the reaction partners...
						Check your textbook for the reaction partners of Gringnard reagents and look if such a group is present in the molecule



		yogi_ (Stranger) 10-16-04 01:58 No 536029				Mendeleev Communications
						Hi. Ive foudn this article about debrominating 2-bromo-carboxylic acids, of formula RCHBrCOOH, into RCH2COOH. Cant read it though. If anyone can link to it or put it here, it will be much appreciated - DOI:10.1070/MC1994v004n01ABEH000332 Abstract - 2-Bromo-substituted carboxylic acids (RCHBrCOOH) undergo reductive debromination and form unsubstituted acids RCH2COOH. yogi_52

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