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pablos
11-10-04 17:12
      High boiling fraction
(Rated as: UTFSE!)

pablos
(Newbee)
11-11-04 08:59
No 540993
      To the "UTFSE " fanatics

Maybe I am blind but I can find only information about the terpenes and
myristicine,safrole,eugenol,dillapiole fractions but nothing about the rest of the components or bp.in the mace and anethum sowa oils.

Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
11-11-04 09:40
No 540998
User Picture       The Constituents of the Essential Oil of Nutmeg

Post 504015 (Rhodium: "The Constituents of the Essential Oil of Nutmeg", Methods Discourse)

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pablos
(Newbee)
11-11-04 11:30
No 541006
      this was really a good read

Ok, opssee,
I´m a little bit blind. Has nayone reference on anethum sowa too?
I got from a really good old eropean source 200 grams of Anethum sowa and 200 grams of Mace claimed with analisis certificate to be respectly 25% dillapiole and 17% myristicine.
The amount of dillapiole is "bad", normally range in Europe 40%.
The amount of myristicine is really good, normally range in Europe 10%.
To good to be true?

pablos
(Newbee)
11-12-04 17:59
No 541261
      mace oil distillation

Fractional distillation of mace oil report:
100 grams of mace oil claimed to be 17% myristicine was fractional distilled in a 250 ml flask with ~18 torr(calculated with the normograph, with my power 2 fridge pumps vakuum sistem anethole boil at 115~120)
Like in the above document posted by Rhodium it can be sayed that the mace oil has 3 great fraction.
The first one beginn to distill with approximally 18 toor at 60 C and efinish at approx 100~110 C with a little bit linaol. 74 was collected of a really clear oil.
The mixture is passed in a 100 ml flask.
The second one fraction beginn with approx. 110~115 C and finish with 155 C.That´s the good one.20 ml was collected, in freezer solidify promptly, have a little yellow tinge.
In the flask remain a mass of polimerized crap.Cooled at room temperatur this crap solidify and is really hard to clean.In this moment the flask is seattled in a acetone bad.

hypo
(Balanced Ego)
11-13-04 11:02
No 541356
      hhm..

> The second one fraction beginn with approx. 110~115 C and finish with 155 C.

40°C is too broad of a fraction. you should refractionate that.

> That´s the good one.20 ml was collected, in freezer solidify promptly, have a
> little yellow tinge.

mp of myristicin: -30°C.

HÎ¨=EÎ¨

pablos
(Newbee)
11-14-04 11:16
No 541505
      freeze point

The fraction succesive was washed ala yudekx.
To smaal for a distillation. My fridge get -25.
Do you mean is maybe contaminated?
I´m distillling now dillapiole and I collect the 151-170 Fraction any other good typ?

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		pablos 11-10-04 17:12				High boiling fraction (Rated as: UTFSE!)



		pablos (Newbee) 11-11-04 08:59 No 540993				To the "UTFSE " fanatics
						Maybe I am blind but I can find only information about the terpenes and myristicine,safrole,eugenol,dillapiole fractions but nothing about the rest of the components or bp.in the mace and anethum sowa oils.



		Rhodium (Chief Bee) 11-11-04 09:40 No 540998				The Constituents of the Essential Oil of Nutmeg
						Post 504015 (Rhodium: "The Constituents of the Essential Oil of Nutmeg", Methods Discourse) ^{The Hive - Clandestine Chemists Without Borders}



		pablos (Newbee) 11-11-04 11:30 No 541006				this was really a good read
						Ok, opssee, I´m a little bit blind. Has nayone reference on anethum sowa too? I got from a really good old eropean source 200 grams of Anethum sowa and 200 grams of Mace claimed with analisis certificate to be respectly 25% dillapiole and 17% myristicine. The amount of dillapiole is "bad", normally range in Europe 40%. The amount of myristicine is really good, normally range in Europe 10%. To good to be true?



		pablos (Newbee) 11-12-04 17:59 No 541261				mace oil distillation
						Fractional distillation of mace oil report: 100 grams of mace oil claimed to be 17% myristicine was fractional distilled in a 250 ml flask with ~18 torr(calculated with the normograph, with my power 2 fridge pumps vakuum sistem anethole boil at 115~120) Like in the above document posted by Rhodium it can be sayed that the mace oil has 3 great fraction. The first one beginn to distill with approximally 18 toor at 60 C and efinish at approx 100~110 C with a little bit linaol. 74 was collected of a really clear oil. The mixture is passed in a 100 ml flask. The second one fraction beginn with approx. 110~115 C and finish with 155 C.That´s the good one.20 ml was collected, in freezer solidify promptly, have a little yellow tinge. In the flask remain a mass of polimerized crap.Cooled at room temperatur this crap solidify and is really hard to clean.In this moment the flask is seattled in a acetone bad.



		hypo (Balanced Ego) 11-13-04 11:02 No 541356				hhm..
						> The second one fraction beginn with approx. 110~115 C and finish with 155 C. 40°C is too broad of a fraction. you should refractionate that. > That´s the good one.20 ml was collected, in freezer solidify promptly, have a > little yellow tinge. mp of myristicin: -30°C. HÎ¨=EÎ¨



		pablos (Newbee) 11-14-04 11:16 No 541505				freeze point
						The fraction succesive was washed ala yudekx. To smaal for a distillation. My fridge get -25. Do you mean is maybe contaminated? I´m distillling now dillapiole and I collect the 151-170 Fraction any other good typ?

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